Lang Ranch


December 23, 2003 - Year end report -

The soon to be MUD pile is still on hold.

Oh! if only they would have listened the voices of those who live in the area!

But those who had control would not relinquish it.

It is the old story!!!

N I H (Not Invented Here) syndrome!

Our leaders could not admit that others knew more than they did.

Now we see the result, waste, delay and possibly danger!

Stay Tuned....

This is the last chance to save the OAK GROVE!!

Come to the Council Tuesday February 27th at 5:45pm. 

If you wish to speak, speakers can only speak at the 6pm public comment period, not to
the agenda item itself.  This is our last chance.  This is the oak grove's last chance. 

Your presence, your letters to the editor, your e-mails, your phone calls, your faxes, your speech at public comments may well be the deciding factor.

Please support the Linda Parks request to Council on February 27th to have the City fund SECOR, the expert team that  helped  bring forward the alternative proposal, to conduct borings and provide the initial design work for an off-line basin in the field.  If these experts find it can't be done, we've done our best and reduced impacts through our due diligence.  If these experts find it can be done, when construction starts this year, it will be for a sane project that preserves one of our City's finest oak groves.

The following are the contents of an email discussing the state of the Lang Ranch DAM!   READ IT AND TAKE ACTION!

From: Linda Parks <toparks@gte.net>
Subject: Our Last Chance to Save the Oak Grove
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:01:53 -0800

It's been almost a year since I presented "An Environmentally Superior
Alternative  to the Ventura County Flood Control District's (VCFCD) Lang Creek Proposed Debris/Detention Basins Project".


THE ALTERNATIVE
My alternative differs from the VCFCD project in three ways:

bulletThe Concept - the alternative proposes that the detention basin be off-line, or out of the streambed as opposed to the VCFCD basin which is in the streambed;
bulletThe Location - the alternative site is just a stones throw downstream from the VCFCD dam site.  Their site would require removing federally listed endangered plants and chopping down dozens of ancient oak trees (that average 30' in height) to make 2 roads and a 66.5 high dam embankment (that will store water to twice the height of the oak grove in 100 year storm events).  In contrast, the alternative site is a flat field where several hundred loads of dirt have since been dumped in anticipation of the Park District's plan to turn the field into baseball
diamonds, etc.  The alternative would provide a dual use basin:
baseball fields in dry months, a detention basin in wet weather.
bulletDebris Storage -  instead of the VCFCD proposal to build a 47 acre foot debris basin at the northeast corner of Lang Ranch Parkway and Westlake Blvd. with a 500 foot brush clearance zone upstream, my alternative proposes doing away with the debris basin altogether and instead providing debris racks up stream.  My alternative report included evidence that both City and County staff  agreed in 1995 that the proposed 47 acre foot basin was way over-sized and a mere 17 acre feet would be sufficient.  This 17 acre feet estimate for debris would allow for the less impactful debris rack that my alternative proposes.

THE HISTORY
When the City approved the removal of 140 oak trees to build a joint debris and detention basin in city parkland on the west side of Westlake Blvd, everyone thought the ancient oak grove was lost.

When the twin basin design that put the debris basin on the east side and detention basin on the west side of Westlake Blvd. was approved in 1995, everyone thought it was just a matter of time before the dam would be constructed.

When a tri-party agreement between the developer, the County and the City provided  a bond to be repaid with residents' Mello Roos payments, everyone thought once the County got their money the project would be built.

When the City allowed the developer to remove all temporarily detention basins in Lang Ranch in anticipation of the permanent one, everyone thought the permanent one would soon be built.

When the Parks Alternative was dismissed  on March 21st, 2000, everyone thought the debris and detention basins would be built just as the Ventura County Flood Control District designed them.

But everyone was wrong!

WE'VE MADE A DIFFERENCE
The debris basin has been reduced to 18 acre feet (one-third of the originally proposed size) in order to avoid the Chumash archeological site we know is there and they for so long denied.  The streambed east of Westlake Boulevard will not be stripped of vegetation some 500 feet, as was proposed in February 2000.  The tri-party agreement to fund and build the dam expired in January, 2001. The initial bond money the County received in 1996 to build the project has accrued a million dollars in interest for the County's General Fund (if not spent on the project).   The California Department of Fish and Game has asked for a supplemental EIR to review the new information that has come to light.

It is known that the detention basin site has the same geologic constraints from the Erbes Road landslide as the alternative site. There is new information regarding the presence of water underground that may be lubricating the slide and endangering the homes on top of it.

So why hasn't the Lang Ranch Dam been built even six years after the "final" decision from the City, the County and the various regulatory agencies?  Because we never gave up.

Don't give up now!

LACK OF GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO DETERMINE FEASIBILITY
A year after my alternative was submitted there has been no study to determine its feasibility.  Most upsetting, the City has wasted tens of thousands of dollars putting up a straw man and knocking it down.  The City hired a hydrologist (Hawks & Associates) who falsely interpreted my alternative as being located on the steep hillside of known landslide material instead of in the flat field.  The City then hired a second consultant (Gorian) geologists who studied the hillside and determined any alternative in the steep hill of landslide material would likely cause a landslide.  Gorian even had 3 test borings done on the hill to back up it's claim that the hillside of slide material is a bad place to build a detention basin.

Never did the consultants check the flat field area where my alternative is proposed.  Steve Brady, Senior Hydro geologist for SECOR International, the engineering firm assisting me with the alternative wrote "It should be noted that the limits of Gorian's investigation did not include the area of the March 2000 Parks proposed alternative retention basin."

The City also hired a third consultant, Impact Sciences to say from looking at the Gorian and Hawks reports, my alternative wouldn't work. The City then hired a fourth consultant, Rincon, that found the site out of the oak grove was environmentally superior of the 16 alternatives studied, but based on Gorian and Hawks, it was not feasible.

The City  then hired the original archeologist from Lang Ranch (consultant number 5) who said our claims were wrong and there were no archeological sites where the VCFCD debris basin is planned. Fortunately the original Chumash monitor who knows what's buried there came forward and reminded the City that they promised to preserve the site.  As a result the debris basin was redesigned to a third of its size to avoid the burial site.  A 6th consultant wrote that the oak grove was not threatened and oak trees can survive even if totally submerged for 24 hours.

Based on the Hawks and Gorian, and Rincon reports, and without doing
independent review of the geology, the Army Corps of Engineers found that "From a hydraulic and hydrologic point of view, alternative 16 or a variation of the off-line alternative (including Ms. Parks proposal) could solve the flooding problem in Lang Ranch as long as all the design criteria are met.  It seems the location of the basin is primarily a geotechnical and/or environmental concern."

The Army Corps issued their permit.  At least two other permits are outstanding, that of the California Department of Fish and Game, an agency concerned about the environmental issues associated with the VCFCD project, and the Division of Safety of Dams an agency concerned about the geological stability of the VCFCD dam.

WHAT WE MUST DO
No one knows if my alternative is feasible.  The geologists, dam builders, landslide specialists, and hydro geologist who Ed Masry hired and who have helped me propose the alternative believe it can be done. But first borings must be taken in the ACTUAL location of my proposed site.  Until this is done its feasibility cannot be determined.

We have come this far.  If my alternative won't work let it die based on a review of it, not based on a review of a ridiculous concept to build a 100' hole in a landslide hill.

 

 

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